Was Haggar a concuibine of Abraham (p) ?- The conspiracy against Ishmael

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Was Hagar a concubine of Abraham (p) ?-The conspiracy against Ishmael

let us look at Genesis 16:3, “So after Abram had been living in Canaan ten years, Sarai his wife took her Egyptian maidservant Hagar and gave her to her husband TO BE HIS WIFE . (From the NIV Bible, Genesis 16:3)” Clearly the Bible tells us Abraham (P) Married Hagar.

NO HAGAR WAS NOT THE CONCUBINE OF ABRAHAM(P) BUT HIS LEGALLY WED WIFE ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE

NOW THE QUESTIONS ARISES 1. Then why are some shameless Jews and shameless Christians accusing their own Patriarch Prophet Abraham (p) of having sex with Prostitutes and begetting bastards?Why are some shameless Jews and shameless Christians calling a legally wed wife of Prophet Abraham (p) , Hagar as an concubine ?

ANSWER:Firstly because they are just pure and simple shameless people who are deceived by the devil to speak lies

2. Secondly why are they speaking lies or why is the devil deceiving them to speak lies against their own Prophet and his wife?

ANSWER:Because the one true God of Abraham (p) Promised to make the first born of Abraham(p) , Ishmael (p) into a GREAT NATION ( Arabs the descendants of Ishmael) whom the Lord loves and with whom the Lord also promised his covenant , please read the Bible and see for yourself

Genesis 21:14-21


14 Early next morning Abraham took some food and a full water-skin and gave them to Hagar. He set the child ( Ishmael) on her shoulder and sent her away, and she wandered about in the wilderness of Beersheba.

15 When the water in the skin was finished, she thrust the child under a bush,

16 then went and sat down some way off, about a bowshot distant. How can I watch the child die? she said, and sat there, weeping bitterly.

17 God heard the child crying, and the angel of God called from heaven to Hagar, What is the matter, Hagar? Do not be afraid: God has heard the child crying where you laid him.18 Go, lift the child (Ishmael) and hold him in your arms, because I shall make of him a great nation.

19 Then God opened her eyes and she saw a well full of water; she went to it, filled the water-skin, and gave the child a drink.

20 God was with the child as he grew up. He lived in the wilderness of Paran and became an archer;

21 and his mother got him a wife from Egypt. (The Revised English Bible)

Now you can clearly understand why the Jews and Christians are shamelessly speaking lies or are deceived into speaking lies by the devil against their own God, their own great Prophet Abraham (p), against their own Prophet Abraham’s wife Hagar and against the son of their own Prophet Abraham (p) who is also a great Prophet himself Ishmael (p)

THE JEWS

Firstly it is because some hypocrite Jews are used to shamelessly slander and kill their own prophets

Secondly It is because some shameless racist Jews don’t want to acknowledge the superiority of their half brothers Arabs who are the descendants of Prophet Ishmael (p)

Thirdly it is because some shameless racist Jews don’t want to believe in the last and final messenger of God sent to the entire humanity Prophet Muhammad(s) because he was an Arab .

THE CHRISTIANS

Firstly the Christians shamelessly have made ONE true God of Abraham (p) into THREE

Secondly some Christians have become Pagans by worshiping and making idols of Prophet Jesus(p) and his mother Mary (p)

Thirdly some Christians don’t want to believe in the last and final Messenger of God sent to the entire Humanity Prophet Muhammad (s) who was an Arab, and a descendant of Prophet Ishmael (p)Because the last and final message of God which was given to Prophet Muhammad(s) the Holy Quran openly rejects the Pagan Christians falsehood of making Jesus God or begotten Son of God

“And they say: ”Allah has taken to Himself a son.” Glory be to Him; rather, whatever is in the heavens and the earth is His; all are obedient to Him. The Originator of the heavens and the earth; and when He decrees an affair, He only says to it, “Be”, and it is.” Holy Quran(2:116-117)

“and say not, “Three”. Desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one God; far be it from His glory that He should have a son; whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is His; and Allah is sufficient for a Protector.” Holy Quran (4:171)

“Certainly they disbelieve who say: “Surely Allah – He is the Messiah, son of Maryam”. Say: “Who then could control any thing as against Allah when He wished to destroy the Messiah, son of Maryam and his mother and all those on the earth?” And Allah’s is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and what is between them; He creates what He pleases; and Allah has power over all things.” Holy Quran (5:17)

“The Messiah by no means disdain that he should be a servant of Allah, nor do the angels who are near to Him, and whoever disdains His worship and is proud, He will gather them all together to Himself.” Holy Quran (4:172)

“And they say: “The Beneficent God has taken to Himself a son.” Glory be to Him. Nay! They are honored servants; they do not precede Him in speech and (only) according to His commandment do they act. He knows what is before them and what is behind them, and they do not intercede except for him whom He approves, and for fear of Him they tremble.” Holy Quran (21:26 – 28)

IN THE END I WANT ALL TRUE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS TO SINCERELY REFECLT DEEPLY ON THE ABOVE MATTER AND SAVE THEMSELVES FROM THE DECEPTION OF THE DEVIL , IF THEY HAVE FEAR OF GOD LEFT IN THEIR HEARTS

“Certainly they disbelieve who say: “Surely Allah,

He is the Messiah, son of Maryam”. And the Messiah

(Jesus) said: “O Children of Israel! Worship Allah,

my Lord and your Lord, surely whoever associates

(others) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden to him

the garden, and his abode is the fire; and there shall

be no helpers for the unjust.” Holy Quran (5:72)

Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is

one LORD

Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of

all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The

Lord our God is one Lord.

PEACE – AMEEN

MAY GOD GUIDE YOU TO THE RIGHT PATH

Courtesy Dr Syed Abdul Raheem (Sufi786)

Author of ” The Only true Religion Debate

 

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8 Comments

  1. markparker1
    Posted February 26, 2008 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

    Hi Sufi786, this is interesting, thank you for putting these things up I’ve only read a few sections so far but will study more.
    When you speak of Allah, I realize you are speaking of God, but what is the equivalent in a normal Bible, like the King James Version I’m familiar with? And how much of the Old and New Testaments do you accept? Like do you believe that the Prophets who were sent to the house of Israel, (which comprizes more than just the Jews), were truely sent by God?

    Christianity is my faith so I understand something of it, though lots of people understand it differently.

    In the New Testament Christ was asked:

    ‘Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
    37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
    38 This is the first and great commandment.
    39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
    40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.’

    To me this is at the heart of what should be true Christianity, It’s the law given to Christians, the rest of the ten commandments are how we keep it.

    Plus there is a law associated with a covenant; This requires first Faith, faith is a fairly simple concept but not well understood, many think it means belief, but thats just part of it, the main part, the part over which we have the most control is to do with our actions, or works, if we have faith we will obey all God’s law, as we come to know it. The second thing required is repentance, and this must be sincere, the third part of the covenant is an ordinance; Baptism in water for the remission of sins, then the fourth, another ordinance, receiving the laying on of hands to recieve the gift of the Holy Ghost. What is your belief regarding repentance, and these things? And do you practice baptism? And the Holy Ghost? eg: ‘For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.’ This is from Peter in the NT but there are also references in the OT.
    I’m sorry for asking so many questions but like you point out these three faiths trace back to common roots, with Abraham, with whom God made covenant: ‘And in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.’

  2. Posted March 9, 2008 at 1:14 am | Permalink

    markparker1

    SAID

    Hi Sufi786, this is interesting, thank you for putting these things up I’ve only read a few sections so far but will study more.
    When you speak of Allah, I realize you are speaking of God, but what is the equivalent in a normal Bible, like the King James Version I’m familiar with? And how much of the Old and New Testaments do you accept? Like do you believe that the Prophets who were sent to the house of Israel, (which comprizes more than just the Jews), were truely sent by God?

    MY REPLY :

    First of all I would like to apologize for my late reply !

    Yes we Muslims believe in the same ONE GOD OF ABRAHAM, and YES we Muslims believe in all the Prophets from FIRST ADAM (P) INCLUDING JESUS THE SECOND LAST PROPHET (P) TILL LAST AND FINAL MESSENGER OF GOD PROPHET MUHAMMAD(S)- WHICH TOTALS UP TO HUNDRED AND A FORTY THOUSAND PROPHETS .

  3. Posted March 9, 2008 at 1:27 am | Permalink

    markparker1

    SAID

    Christianity is my faith so I understand something of it, though lots of people understand it differently.

    In the New Testament Christ was asked:

    ‘Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
    37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
    38 This is the first and great commandment.
    39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
    40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.’

    To me this is at the heart of what should be true Christianity, It’s the law given to Christians, the rest of the ten commandments are how we keep it.

    MY REPLY :

    Well Mark Parker do you really think that

    Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
    37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
    38 This is the first and great commandment.

    That this is the ONLY first commandment of Christians ?

    please read the below and think twice

    Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord.

    So basically the Christians have to FIRST BELIEVE in ONE GOD before they can LOVE the ONE GOD !!! OR LOVE THEIR NEIGHBORS !!!

    Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

  4. Posted March 9, 2008 at 1:35 am | Permalink

    markparker1

    SAID

    To me this is at the heart of what should be true Christianity, It’s the law given to Christians, the rest of the ten commandments are how we keep it.

    Plus there is a law associated with a covenant; This requires first Faith, faith is a fairly simple concept but not well understood, many think it means belief, but thats just part of it, the main part, the part over which we have the most control is to do with our actions, or works, if we have faith we will obey all God’s law, as we come to know it. The second thing required is repentance, and this must be sincere, the third part of the covenant is an ordinance; Baptism in water for the remission of sins, then the fourth, another ordinance, receiving the laying on of hands to recieve the gift of the Holy Ghost. What is your belief regarding repentance, and these things? And do you practice baptism? And the Holy Ghost? eg: ‘For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.’ This is from Peter in the NT but there are also references in the OT.
    I’m sorry for asking so many questions but like you point out these three faiths trace back to common roots, with Abraham, with whom God made covenant: ‘And in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.’

    MY REPLY :
    What you say is TRUE we Muslims , Christians and Jews have a COMMON ROOT IN ONE GOD OF ABRAHAM – but unfortunately we differ in the TREE OF FAITH IN ONE GOD !!!

    Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord.

    Holy Quran Surah 112. The Unity, Sincerity, Oneness Of Allah

    1. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;

    2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;

    3. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;

    4. And there is none like unto Him.

    Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD

    Mar 12:29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord.

    So basically the Christians have to FIRST BELIEVE in ONE GOD before they can CLAIM to be truly following the RELIGION OF ONE TRUE GOD OF ABRAHAM !!! and become worthy of MERCY AND FORGIVENESS OF GOD !!!

    Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

    Peace Ameen

    May God Guide you

  5. Mark Parker
    Posted March 9, 2008 at 4:12 am | Permalink

    Thanks sufi786,
    I don’t think you and I have a difference at all over this quote, this is Jesus’s answer to the question; ‘Which is the first commandment of all?’
    You had quoted only the beginning of his answer as recorded by Mark, to make the point about ‘our God is one Lord’ which is part of your argument over the false man made notions of the trinity. I think this part of what Christ is answering is just a statement of truth, to qualify the rest which relates to what we should do, as commandments are related to things for us to do, or not do.
    You actually have a thread up ‘LDS Mormon Church Leader Affirms Islamic Muslim Teaching on Christ Jesus’ that’s my church, and one of our Apostles in the video, and I was very happy to see you have it there.
    Anyway this is the complete answer to the question put to Jesus as recorded in Mark, and I’m just trying to make clear how I see his answer:

    29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: (a statement of truth, something we should, off coarse, believe.)
    30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. (The first commandment)
    31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. (The second commandment)There is none other commandment greater than these.

    ‘So basically the Christians have to FIRST BELIEVE in ONE GOD before they can LOVE the ONE GOD !!! OR LOVE THEIR NEIGHBORS !!!’

    I’ve seen people who don’t believe in any God who still love their neighbours and live by a good concience, and are a blessing to many people, do you think God their Father will judge them harshly?
    And some who believe in God who treat their neighbours very badly, what of them? Are they not like the Devils James speaks of in your quote? Sadly they can be found in all religious faiths.
    This is a fuller quote of what James was speaking about, the subject being faith. I think the writings of James are of great worth especially on explaining this important subject.
    17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
    18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
    19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
    20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
    21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
    22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
    23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for brighteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
    24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

    Do you have much knowledge of ‘The Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints’? It may interest you to see how it began and what Christ said to the Prophet Joseph Smith about the state of Christianity in that day.
    All Joseph wanted to know was which Church was right, and which to join, and he had decided to follow the council of James;
    James 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

    This is a movie representation of these events;

    Joseph Smiths more detailed testimony can be found here;

    http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1

  6. Posted March 9, 2008 at 4:53 am | Permalink

    Thanks Mark Parker for your input

    It is good to know you reject the pagan Trinity and believe in ONE PURE GOD OF ABRAHAM ONLY .

    And thanks for the links , I will check them out .

    “Say: He is Allah,
    the One and Only;
    Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
    He begetteth not,
    nor is He begotten;
    and there is none like unto Him.”

    (Holy Qur’an, 112:1-4)

  7. Hannah
    Posted May 14, 2008 at 11:39 pm | Permalink

    i agree with what you have to say. i believe that there is corruption in all three religions today though. jews betrayed their messiah jesus and killed him. christians evolved their religion from paganism and formed the trinity. i believe these christians are being miss led. i am not a false christian, i do not worship any god except for the one and true God. and both “christains” aka false christains and “muslims” slaughtered many to have them join their religion. it was either join or die. the defenition for “muslim” is to be one with god. it wasn’t a religion. it was a term of devotion to abraham. abraham wasn’t the religion muslim because there was no mohummad to follow he was born thousands of years after. and abraham was alive before the birth or isral so there for there couldnt have been a religion of muslim back then like todays. some believe mohummad was a false prophet making people believe that killing is the only way to convert people to muslim. jesus preached love and peace only. i believe that jesus is the son of god, not god himself. he was sent from heaven to die for our sins. with out jesus, we would be still following the old testament. the old testament doesnt apply to us. current islam is still following the old testament. along with some jews. all our truth and hope is in jesus our savior. if he didnt die on the cross then we would be dead in our sins. people who dont believe that jesus died to save us wont be saved. dont reject the belief in jesus christ.

  8. Posted May 15, 2008 at 3:13 am | Permalink

    Hannah
    SAID

    i agree with what you have to say. i believe that there is corruption in all three religions today though. jews betrayed their messiah jesus and killed him. christians evolved their religion from paganism and formed the trinity. i believe these christians are being miss led. i am not a false christian, i do not worship any god except for the one and true God. and both “christains” aka false christains and “muslims” slaughtered many to have them join their religion. it was either join or die. the defenition for “muslim” is to be one with god. it wasn’t a religion. it was a term of devotion to abraham. abraham wasn’t the religion muslim because there was no mohummad to follow he was born thousands of years after. and abraham was alive before the birth or isral so there for there couldnt have been a religion of muslim back then like todays. some believe mohummad was a false prophet making people believe that killing is the only way to convert people to muslim. jesus preached love and peace only. i believe that jesus is the son of god, not god himself. he was sent from heaven to die for our sins. with out jesus, we would be still following the old testament. the old testament doesnt apply to us. current islam is still following the old testament. along with some jews. all our truth and hope is in jesus our savior. if he didnt die on the cross then we would be dead in our sins. people who dont believe that jesus died to save us wont be saved. dont reject the belief in jesus christ.

    MY REPLY :

    HI HANNAH

    FIRST OF ALL , YOUR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT ISLAM IS TOTALLY MEDIOCRE TO SAY THE BEST .

    ISLAM STARTED RIGHT FROM THE TIME OF PROPHET ADAM AND EVE AND NOT AT THE TIME OF PROPHET ABRAHAM AND PROPHET MUHAMMAD AS YOU HAVE WRONGLY TOLD OR HAVE BEEN MISINFORMED , AND IT IS THE ONLY RELIGION OF GOD , ALL OTHER RELIGIONS ARE FALSE , AS THEY ALL CLAIM TO WORSHIP ONE GOD BUT PROVE OTHERWISE FROM THEIR TEACHINGS TO WORSHIP OTHER gods BESIDE ONE GOD OF ALL !!!

    BY MAKING STATEMENTS LIKE ISLAM WAS SPREAD BY FORCE LIKE CHRISTIANITY YOU ARE ONLY SHOWING YOUR WEAKNESS IN THE HISTORY .

    ISLAM WAS NOT SPREAD BY FORCE FOR EXAMPLE THE MUSLIMS RULED THE SPAIN FOR 600 HUNDRED YEARS AND YET THEY LEFT SO MANY CHRISTIANS TO THEIR OWN FAITH THAT THEY REPAID THE MUSLIMS FOR THEIR KINDNESS BY KICKING THEM OUT OF THE SPAIN .

    ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS MUSLIMS RULED INDIA FOR 800 HUNDRED YEARS AND YET TODAY 80 % OF INDIANS POPULATION ARE HINDUS , IF ISLAM WAS SPREAD BY FORCE ACCORDING TO THE MISINFORMATION YOU HAVE THEN SPAIN AND INDIA WOULD HAVE BEEN 100 % MUSLIMS !!!

    SEE THE FACTS FROM MYTH , DON’T GET FOOLED BY MEDIA JUST READ THE HISTORY AND SEE THE CORRECT HISTORICAL FACTS !!!

    THERE IS NO COMPULSION OF RELIGION IN ISLAM , THERE IS NO COMPULSION OR FORCED CONVERSION IN ISLAM

    The Qur’an says: [”Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects Taghut (evil) and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trust worthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things. ” (Qur’an 2:256)]

    “If it had been your Lord’s will, all of the people on Earth would have believed. Would you then compel the people so to have them believe?” (Quran 10:99)

    The teachings of Prophet Muhammad(S) on how you and I should treat our Non-Muslim friends and neighbours on a day to day basis as well as how to government should treat a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state.

    “He who believes in God and the Last Day should honour his guest, should not harm his neighbour, should speak good or keep quiet.” (Bukhari, Muslim)

    “Whoever hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state hurts me, and he who hurts me annoys God.” (Bukhari)

    “He who hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state, I am his adversary, and I shall be his adversary on the Day of a Judgement.” (Bukhari)

    “Beware on the Day of Judgement; I shall mysefl be complainant against him who wrongs a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state or lays on him a responsibility greater than he can bear or deprives him of anything that belongs to him.” (Al-Mawardi)

    “Anyone who kills a Non-Muslim who had become our ally will not smell the fragrance of Paradise.” (Bukhari)

    – THIS IS ENOUGH OF PROVE THAT ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE AND TOLERANCE – THERE IS NO COMPULSION OR FORCED CONVERSION IN ISLAM


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