A MUST READ -JESUS IS NOT GOD AND GOD IS NOT JESUS – PROVED 100% FOOL PROOF!!! – PART 4

A MUST READ -JESUS IS NOT GOD AND GOD IS NOT JESUS – PROVED 100% FOOL PROOF!!! – PART 4

 

 

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“And Jesus INCREASED IN

WISDOM and stature, AND IN

FAVOR WITH GOD and man.”

(Luke 3:52)

The above verse of Bible speaks for itself and needs no further proof that Jesus is not God and God is not Jesus!!!

God is all wise and all knowing, if Jesus was still learning the Wisdom and growing in stature and favour before God and Man alike , how can he be GOD Himself ?

I mean the facts are there for people of sane mind to see that Jesus was never God Almighty , and Jesus Himself never ever claimed that he was God Himself and People should Worship him ,

Those fanatic and blind people who insist on proving that Jesus claimed that he was God from the misinterpretation of few verses of Bible are the real enemies of Jesus Christ bent upon proving Jesus to be the biggest liar and sham in the History, who has falsely claimed that he was God Himself when in fact he was nothing but a Man and a Prophet of God !!!

Thankfully The Holy Quran and Islam Clears away all these lies in the name of Jesus to Prove that Jesus claimed divinity , and declares Prophet Jesus INNOCENT of these lies being said by the Fanatic Christians in his name !!!

This is What Jesus will say when he meets the Fanatic Christians who have lied that Jesus Claimed Divinity.

Matthew 7:21-24

21 ‘Not everyone who says to me, “Lord,

Lord”, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but

only one who does the will of my Father in

heaven.

 

22On that day many will say to me,

 

“Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in

 

your name, and cast out demons in your

 

name, and do many deeds of power in

your name?”

 

23Then I will declare to them,

 

“I never knew you; go away

 

from me, you evildoers.”

 

24 ‘Everyone then who hears these words of

mine and acts on them will be like a wise man

who built his house on rock.

I CHALLENGE EACH AND EVERY CHRISTIAN ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH TO PROVE ME WRONG AND PROVE JESUS IS GOD!!!

I SWEAR BY GOD THEY CAN NEVER PROVE JESUS TO BE GOD!!!

THEN THEY MUST ACCEPT THE QURAN AND ISLAM – LEAVING THE CHRISTIAN CORRUPT FAITH AND PAGANISM!!!

OTHERWISE THEY CAN FOLLOW WHAT EVER THEY WANT BLINDLY THAT IS THEIR OWN UNFORTUNATE CHOICE!!!

Holy Quran Surah 112.

The Unity, Sincerity, Oneness Of Allah

1. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;

2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;

3. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;

4. And there is none like unto Him.

MAY ALLAH THE ONE TRUE GOD OF ABRAHAM(p), MOSES(P) , JESUS(p) AND MUHAMMAD(S) GUIDE YOU TO THE RIGHT PATH

“And behold! God will say [i.e. on the Day of Judgment]: ‘Oh Jesus, the son of Mary! Did you say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God?’ He will say: ‘Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would indeed have known it. You know what is in my heart, though I know not what is in Yours. For You know in full all that is hidden. Never did I say to them anything except what You commanded me to say: ‘Worship God, my Lord and your Lord.’ And I was a witness over them while I lived among them. When You took me up, You were the Watcher over them, and You are a witness to all things’”

HOLY QURAN(5:116-117).

“Christ, the son of Mary, was no more than a messenger; many were the messengers that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how God makes His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!”

HOLY QURAN (5:75).

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8 Comments

  1. Joanna
    Posted April 3, 2008 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    I feel sorry for you. I hope you will be well again

  2. Ryan
    Posted April 3, 2008 at 7:56 pm | Permalink

    I Agree with Joanna, may the Lord forgive you for you not know what you speak.

  3. Michelle
    Posted April 4, 2008 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    Say whatever you want to say about Jesus. After all this is a free country and you are free to express your opinions. However, I have proven that Jesus is God and he has been so good to me. You can take the scripture from the Bible and twist it around to say whatever you wish but it does not change the facts. Jesus is God and he is merciful, forgiving and full of grace. I will keep you in my prayers. May the Lord show you the way. May Jesus forgive you for you know what what you say!!!

  4. Posted April 4, 2008 at 6:12 pm | Permalink

    I am really touched by the good faith and Kindness of Christians above , who have made comments for me , but Alas I am not touched by their God Faith , which needs serious reasoning and common sense !!!

  5. Fazal
    Posted April 4, 2008 at 7:29 pm | Permalink

    Michelle can u give me proof that Jesus is God?

    michelle stated
    “However, I have proven that Jesus is God and he has been so good to me”

    can u give me an unequivocal statement from the bible that says that Jesus is God.

    cause i will give u verses that clearly say Jesus is not God.

    “Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: thou shalt not bow down thyself to them nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God” (Exodus 20:3-5).

    lets look at this verse as it is a commandment.

    Thou shalt have no other gods before me
    this verse clearly says no Gods before God…

    Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image
    this verse makes it clear no idol worship…

    or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above or that is in the earth beneath
    this verse makes it very clear nothing of any likeness to God…

    the last verse makes it very clear not to associate nothing to God
    as it says any likeness of ANYTHING… this makes it clear nothing is like God…

    yet you say Jesus is God…
    some say Jesus has been created from the image of God from God so its ok as God made him like that…

    lets look at the Commandment this is for u to follow not for God to follow…
    it says tho shall not make unto thee… meaning u followers.
    then it goes on to saying any likeness of anything in the heavens above or earth beneath…

    why would God tell u to do this if he made an image of Himself???
    of course God would not do this at all…

    and to back this up lets see what Jesus pbuh has to say.

    Now someone approached him and said, “Teacher, what good must I do to gain eternal life?”

    He answered him, “Why do you ask me about the good? There is only One who is good. 13 If you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.” matthew 19

    so Jesus clearly says to go to heaven u must keep the commandments…
    and i would like to state no commandment says that he is God…

    and more on prophet jesus’s sayings:

    Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

    so this tells us any one that breaks the least of the commandments will not enter paradise…

    now modern day christians belive that if you belive Jesus died on the cross for your sin then u will enter into the kingdom…

    first things first Jesus said keep the commandments to enter the heaven break any and u will not enter… he said nothing about belive i died on the cross he could have easily said that after the crucification… so u do not have to believe in pauls statements as they ARE NOT AN ARTICLE OF FAITH FOR CHRISTIANS…

    next lets see who Jesus was sent for…

    I was sent only unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel,

    here the full context was that a Greek woman came unto him and asked him to cure her child as she has been possessed. Jesus pbuh told her to go away and called us gentiles Dogs and swines. the lady replied even us Dog and Swines eat crums that fall off the masters table… from this Jesus said your faith in the lord(God almighty) is string and helped her then she went away… this again makes it very clear Jesus clearly said he was for the Jews and the woman said even if so we can still receive help from you after she was helped she went away… this proves he was sent to the jews.

    next saying:

    Go not into the way of the Gentiles

    this is what Jesus said to his people not to go in the way of the non Jews… another clear indication that he was only sent to the Jews…

    so why would God be unfair on all us non Jews?
    of course God is not unfair he has given us hope as well he has given prophets to every nation. there fore if u still claim Jesus is God you will have to give evidence to confirm this from the bible. keep in mind all that has been said above… he was clearly for the Jews.

    finnal saying in his comming back.

    Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord’ will enter the kingdom of heaven;
    but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven.
    Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord,’ did we not prophesy
    in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons,
    and in Your name perform many miracles?
    And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you;
    depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.”

    Matthew 7:21-23

    this makes it clear whoever does the will of God almighty will enter paradise Gods will is keep the commandments as God says this in the bible.

    the people that say Lord Lord havent we done miracles in your name will be the people that Jesus will say he does not know them and to get away from him…

    im asking which religion says that he is god and claims miracles in his name… i leave the rest to you to decide…

    final verdict is all you have to do is follow the commandments according to the bible and not break them.

  6. Posted April 5, 2008 at 3:25 am | Permalink

    Michelle

    SAID

    Say whatever you want to say about Jesus. After all this is a free country and you are free to express your opinions. However, I have proven that Jesus is God and he has been so good to me. You can take the scripture from the Bible and twist it around to say whatever you wish but it does not change the facts. Jesus is God and he is merciful, forgiving and full of grace. I will keep you in my prayers. May the Lord show you the way. May Jesus forgive you for you know what what you say!!!

    FAZAL REPLIED :

    Michelle can u give me proof that Jesus is God?

    michelle stated
    “However, I have proven that Jesus is God and he has been so good to me”

    can u give me an unequivocal statement from the bible that says that Jesus is God.

    cause i will give u verses that clearly say Jesus is not God.

    “Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: thou shalt not bow down thyself to them nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God” (Exodus 20:3-5).

    lets look at this verse as it is a commandment.

    Thou shalt have no other gods before me
    this verse clearly says no Gods before God…

    Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image
    this verse makes it clear no idol worship…

    or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above or that is in the earth beneath
    this verse makes it very clear nothing of any likeness to God…

    the last verse makes it very clear not to associate nothing to God
    as it says any likeness of ANYTHING… this makes it clear nothing is like God…

    yet you say Jesus is God…
    some say Jesus has been created from the image of God from God so its ok as God made him like that…

    lets look at the Commandment this is for u to follow not for God to follow…
    it says tho shall not make unto thee… meaning u followers.
    then it goes on to saying any likeness of anything in the heavens above or earth beneath…

    why would God tell u to do this if he made an image of Himself???
    of course God would not do this at all…

    and to back this up lets see what Jesus pbuh has to say.

    Now someone approached him and said, “Teacher, what good must I do to gain eternal life?”

    He answered him, “Why do you ask me about the good? There is only One who is good. 13 If you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.” matthew 19

    so Jesus clearly says to go to heaven u must keep the commandments…
    and i would like to state no commandment says that he is God…

    and more on prophet jesus’s sayings:

    Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

    so this tells us any one that breaks the least of the commandments will not enter paradise…

    now modern day christians belive that if you belive Jesus died on the cross for your sin then u will enter into the kingdom…

    first things first Jesus said keep the commandments to enter the heaven break any and u will not enter… he said nothing about belive i died on the cross he could have easily said that after the crucification… so u do not have to believe in pauls statements as they ARE NOT AN ARTICLE OF FAITH FOR CHRISTIANS…

    next lets see who Jesus was sent for…

    I was sent only unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel,

    here the full context was that a Greek woman came unto him and asked him to cure her child as she has been possessed. Jesus pbuh told her to go away and called us gentiles Dogs and swines. the lady replied even us Dog and Swines eat crums that fall off the masters table… from this Jesus said your faith in the lord(God almighty) is string and helped her then she went away… this again makes it very clear Jesus clearly said he was for the Jews and the woman said even if so we can still receive help from you after she was helped she went away… this proves he was sent to the jews.

    next saying:

    Go not into the way of the Gentiles

    this is what Jesus said to his people not to go in the way of the non Jews… another clear indication that he was only sent to the Jews…

    so why would God be unfair on all us non Jews?
    of course God is not unfair he has given us hope as well he has given prophets to every nation. there fore if u still claim Jesus is God you will have to give evidence to confirm this from the bible. keep in mind all that has been said above… he was clearly for the Jews.

    finnal saying in his comming back.

    Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord’ will enter the kingdom of heaven;
    but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven.
    Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord,’ did we not prophesy
    in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons,
    and in Your name perform many miracles?
    And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you;
    depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.”

    Matthew 7:21-23

    this makes it clear whoever does the will of God almighty will enter paradise Gods will is keep the commandments as God says this in the bible.

    the people that say Lord Lord havent we done miracles in your name will be the people that Jesus will say he does not know them and to get away from him…

    im asking which religion says that he is god and claims miracles in his name… i leave the rest to you to decide…

    final verdict is all you have to do is follow the commandments according to the bible and not break them.

  7. Bruce
    Posted June 27, 2008 at 2:08 am | Permalink

    Remember, you can tell someone but, you can/t make them a believer, only Holy Spirit can do that. John 8:58-59 says it all son. if not ,they wouldn’t have picked up stones to throw at Him for blasphemy. Then of course there is 1 Timothy 3:16 . Friend, you will meet Jesus some day. When He asks you why should He let you into heaven ,what will you say? John 14:6 says ”no man come to the Father but, through Jesus. Remember that when you are talking about Mohammed. The song says it won’t be Mohammed sitting on the throne. God open your eyes to the truth friend.

  8. Nur-el-Masih Ben Haq
    Posted December 19, 2008 at 8:38 pm | Permalink

    STANDARD PROOF OF THE DIVINITY OF CHRIST FROM THE HOLY BIBLE AND QUR”AN.

    God began by chosing a chaste woman, Mary (Maryam). To qualify her, He necessarily exalted her in advance ABOVE ALL THE WOMEN OF CREATION, for birth is the women’s GREATEST pride and, yet Mary would EXTRA-ORDINARILY give the birth that is the GREATEST of all times. See Luke 1:28, 30:34, 41-44, 48-49, and 54-55. Also says Qur’an 3:42, “….O Mary! Allah has CHOSEN thee, and PURIFIED thee, and PREFERED thee ABOVE ALL THE WOMEN OF CREATION”.

    After that, God settled His soul (Ruh) inside His word (Kalimat) which he had put in the womb of Mary, who had been spiritually qualified as we have seen earlier. That was how Mary conceived Jesus. That was to enable the divine attribute have human features through her for the humans to understand Him better (Hence only Jesus is Biblically and Qur’anically declared as GOD’s WORD and GOD’s RUH (Spirit): John 1:1, 14:8:23, Phl. 2:5-8; and the Qur’an 4:171, 2:252 etc. (By implication, Jesus’ flesh is not actually biological but God’s Word; similarly, his life is not actually human’s but from God’s own as we will see more later).

    Therefore, even after his humanly birth, Jesus was declared as much superior to angels and, in fact, God said, “Let ALL God’s angels WORSHIP him (Jesus)” (Heb. 1:6; 1Pet. 3:22; Mat. 4:11), as was Adam, of course, in Qur’an 2:30-34.

    Thus, apparently, Jesus was a human, the rationality and aim of his humanized birth. See Rom. 8:3-6; Heb. 2:16-18. Also, says Allah according to Qur’an 6:9, “Had We appointed an ANGEL our messenger, We ASSUREDLY had made him LIKE A MAN SO THAT HE MIGHT SPEAK TO (associate with) MEN….”

    Muslims often cite John 5:30-31; Mark 13:32-33 and John 1428 etc as disproofs of Christ’s divinity. But, logically, these verses, rather than disprove Jesus’ divinity, expressed the anticipated and expected demonstrations of the character that was Jesus-in-exemlary-typical-human-nature and , therefore , in accordance with God’s programme as stated in the Qur’an 6:9 and:-

    (1) Phil. 2:6, “Who (jesus) being in very nature God, did NOT consider equality with God something to graspe, 7 But made himself NOTHING, taking the very nature of a SERVANT, being made in human likeness 8, and found in appearance as a MAN, he HUMBLED himself and became OBEDIENT to the death, even death in the cross”

    (2) Heb. 2:16, “For surely it is NOT ANGELS that he (Jesus) helps, but Abraham’s descendants. 17 FOR THIS REASON HE (GOD) HAD TO MAKE HIM (JESUS) LIKE HIS BROTHERS IN EVERY WAY in order that……” (Compare Qur’an 6:9)

    (3) Rom. 8:3, “(Jesus)….in the LIKENESS OF A SINFUL MAN……….”

    So, in the light of these verses, it should be clear that Jesus’ humanized acts did not mean that he was actually a human being (John 8:23) but were the divinely designs that were to make Jesus not unnecessarily scare the humans but, rather be their SOURCE OF INSPIRATIONS.

    In other words, if Jesus were to act God-the-father again even when haven purposedly transformed into a man, the transformation would logically be nonsense.

    The Holy Bible reveals relationship between Adam and Jesus thus, “The FIRST Adam became a LIVING SOUL, the LAST Adam (Jesus) a QUICKENING SPIRIT”, 1 Cor. 15:45. Therefore, to understand the nature of Jesus more, we must go back to the Adam’s case.

    Thus, when God breathed life into Adam (Qur’an 38:73-78 and Gen. 2:7), he (God) declared him His (God’s) own IMAGE/LIKENESS (Gen. 2:7) or His VICEROY (Qur’an 2:30). Also, according to Qur’an 28:37-38, 15:39-44; 17:61-62; 7:11-13 and 2:34, Allah instructed ALL the angels to WORSHIP Adam on the ground that He (Allah) had breathed something of His SpIRIT into Adam for a soul (see Heb. 1:2-6, for the same instruction in respect of Jesus). In fact, according to these Qur’anic verses, Satan’s curse and demotion are God’s reaction to his (Satan’s) refusal to prostrate himself before Adam.

    Therefore, Biblically and Qur’anically Adam, whose flesh was made from just the sand (Gen. 2:7, Qur’an 28:72), was notwithstanding such GLORIOUS initially. And, logically, the glorious qualification came from what God breathed in him.

    However, Adam did not pass Satanic test but sinned (that shows some relative weakness in him), thereby lost his INITIAL STATUS and therefore was ordered out of MOST EXALTED DWELLING, the Garden of Eden(Qur’an 7:19-24, Gen. 3:1-24). But Jesus passed all the Satanic tests (Mt.4:1-11, Heb. 4:15; Qur’an 19:19), which logically implies comparative superiority in him.

    Therefore, the fact that SOIL is the comparative parent of Adam, who, again, could not pass Satanic test, sinned and was demoted; and Mary, the SUPERIOR among all women, is the comparative parent of Jesus, who, again, passed all the Satanic tests, did not sin and therefore was NEVER demoted, given that both Adam and Jesus got their souls unbiologically from God directly; it follows that whatever type of soul God gave Adam was originally INFERIOR to the one He gave Jesus. Thus Jesus would still have been superior to Adam even if he (Adam) had been able to defend his INITIAL STATUS, (and thus Jesus was very superior to the demoted Adam (and, by the way, EXTREMELY superior to Adam’s descendants such as MUHAMMAD, whom Allah found STRAY: Qur’an 12:3, 93:6-8).

    So if initially Adam, made from soil, was inter-alia, QUALIFIED to be God’s IMAGE/LIKENESS (Biblically) or GOd’s VICEROY and WORTHY OF A WORSHIP BY THE ANGELS OF GOD (Qur’anically), all because his soul was God-breathed, then Jesus, who has much greater of these qualifications and miraculousness (Bible, Qur’an 5:113), is logically divine.

    Thus to Jesus’ divinity God did order the angels to worship; indeed, only divinity can be worshiped (Mt. 4:8-10; Qur’an 16:36; Heb. 1:2-6).

    That was why when Jesus was asked to disclose God he said, “Have I been with you so long and yet you do not know me…? He who has seen me has seen the Father (God); how can you say, ‘show us the Father?..I do not speak on my (the human) authority, but the Father who DWELLS IN ME DOES HIS WORKS”, John 14:8-10.

    That is why Jesus was Biblically likened to (or understood to be) The Great Spirit Priest, Melchizedek who (being a spirit), has no biological father, mother, genealogy and dates of birth and death, but remains an eternal priest; Heb. 7:1-3, (i.e. the genealogy and date of birth of the ever living Jesus were but symbolic as earlier seen).

    And, that is why when Jesus accomplished his mission on the Earth naturally, he went back to where he came from, Qur’an 4:158, “God has raised him up unto HIMSELF”. See also John 6:28, 62, and Mk. 16:19. John 8:23.

    Yes! Jesus is, according to both the Bible and the Qur’an, back to his origin, God.

    This brings us to the issue of TRINITY. However, I will only discuss the aspect of Trinity that is relevant to the question of the Divinity of Christ. Later I will explain TRINITY in detail because now I have a pending work.

    The TRINITY
    The term ‘Trinity’ is not of Biblical origin but the concept is. Thus, as any Biblically foreign word, it is not necessary to employ it in particular in whatever situation. However, the word ‘Trinity’ is relevantly compendiumic, thus it was employed as a term by some Bible interpreters just because it was the best word that compendiously expressed the ONENESS of the Almighty God, His soul in a born human body, and His soul when , or as, not inside a body. Thus:

    1. God-the-FATHER, means the ALMIGHTY God.
    (Deut.32:6; Mt.5:48,6:9-14; 1Cor.8:4-6)

    2.God-the-SON, means the SOUL-of-the-Almighty-God inside His (GOD’S) WORD, which was physically born as a human body. (Col. 1:15, 19; John 1:1, 14-18, 17:5; Phil. 2:5-7; Mt. 1:18; Isa. 9:6; John 14:10; Pls. 82:6)

    3. God-the-HOLY-SPIRIT, means just SOUL-of-the-Almighty-God, i.e. when, or as, not inside any bodily form. (John 4:24; MK. 3:28-29; Job 33:4; Gen. 1:2; Pls. 139:7-12; Hab 3:3; 2Cor. 3:17-18).

    Very soon I will dwell on TRINITY.

    NB: You are free to ask me any question about Christianity privately or openly but I will always give the answer in open fora such as these for the benefit of those who might ask the same questions.

    Thank you


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